And they are all about believing that you can do something and trying and daring to try and wishing on things. I often think about the legacy of Disney and what Disney songs and Disney movies are. Which my imposter syndrome loves to remind me. I obviously felt the pressure of the legacy of Disney and the music of Disney and the music that's come before me. Naturally, in doing a Disney film, I've definitely taken that with me. Michaels: I grew up a Disney kid, so I think Disney is sort of ingrained in everything that I do a little bit. Can you talk a bit about your inspirations? Was it past Disney songs, or did you like purposely try to not listen to anything or watch anything? But also there's a legacy there and there's sort of an expectation. You're toeing the line between infusing your artistry and doing something a bit different. McIntyre: I can only assume that when you get that call from Disney and you start working on it, you're toeing a line, especially a Disney animated film like this. Rice: If I'm driving nearby, I almost feel inclined to show up and just grab a cup of coffee. Got to know all of these people that we worked on this film with and walked through the halls and going into certain rooms and knowing exactly where everybody is and saying hi. It was so strange how much like home it felt, because we spent so much of our lives there. I went back to the Disney Animation building recently, and I hadn't been there in a while. But as soon as it was over, it's like, well, that's it. Rice: Julia, you always said it feels like we're going to the principal's office. Michaels: It became so normal to us that when they stopped, it was kind of jarring. But yes, I think we went to one every Thursday. I think that when you say it out loud, it sounds really strange. Michaels: We did every Thursday for the last two years. McIntyre: How many of these weekly meetings did you have? Do you have to keep coming back and discussing? If Julia felt a different direction might be better, and we started something like that and pitched it, there was a freedom to try things, which was really, really cool. They were also incredibly open to new ideas and collaborative. Rice: They gave us so much information–helpful information–but they kept it open, so it allowed us to still be creative and brainstorm as to what it could be. And we would, Ben and I, would go back to the drawing board and compile everything together and take the pieces of all of our conversations that we really loved and then turn it into a song. Sonically, what they should feel like, what they should sound like. We would all talk about the emotions of one character, the feelings of another character, the essence of somebody. We would talk about places where they wanted songs, who they wanted songs for. Michaels: We would have these meetings every Thursday and we would talk about the film. McIntyre: Did Disney give you the movie and you then wrote songs to go with it? How did that work? MORE FROM FORBES The Beatles' New Single Is Already Freefalling On The Billboard Charts By Hugh McIntyre And three years later, we're talking to you. I was very happy to say, oh, well, of course, I'd be honored to be a part of this with you. So when she called to invite me to be a part of this with her, it couldn't have come at a better time. I think I was hanging panels and doing work in the middle of a pandemic, scratching my head about what the hell's going on in the world. So when she called me, there's no way for me to know what she's asking about. Rice: Because we've been friends for so long–I think we settled on eight or nine years, let's say nine years. McIntyre: Ben, what did you think when you got the call from Julia asking to be a part of this? It's been my pleasure to be a part of it with her. It's been an amazing process, and she's absolutely killed it. And also, Tom made a very good decision by tapping Julia. We've done songs on my record together–records plural–and when it came time to start getting into the music, I was like there's no other person that I want to do this with other than Ben.īenjamin Rice: It's very sweet of her to say that, and there's no other person that I would have rather done it with. I think we like to say around nine years we've been working together. We have our greats, but we kind of want to try some new stuff and would you be interested? And I was like, oh my gosh, like what a dream come true! The pressure! Yes, I'd love to try.īen and I have been working together for a really long time. I got a call from a Tom McDougall at Disney and he was like, you know, we have our Lin-Manuels and our Lopezes. Julia Michaels: We started working on this in the pandemic, actually. Hugh McIntyre: Tell me how you both came to be involved in this movie.
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